jaap sVraagstellerlid sinds 2009 · 111 berichten24 aug 2010 09:52
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jaap svraagsteller24 aug 2010 09:55
jaap svraagsteller29 okt 2010 18:55
Review van Tuna
Feels good to have this kite back after a couple of weeks of missing it.
I really like the Rises, but a quiver of razors gets more tempting all the time after reading something like this.
After spending a weekend with Craigs 10 Razor I got a few session on it. As claimed above the kite does have better low end than the Rise, and meter for meter delivers more power. However, I like to ride short lines. My go to bar has 19m 800# lines and this greatly reduced the low end (will for any kite). Later in a seesion I got to experience the hig end range and it seemed to be appropraite for the size. Also, I will add that the kites turning response did not decrease at the same rate as you depower the kite (meaning the kite still turns well when depowered).
This 10m Razor turns FAST, and nearly as fast as my 8m Rise.
When I missed the timming on redirecting the kite after boosting and the lines went slack, the Razon drifted back into the window very nicely. This is a great feature when riding in the waves.
The Razor does not have a center strut, and I like it. I bet this contributes to the kite turning faster. Also without a center strut the kite is a lot lees likely to drag on the ground while you are carrying it in hand upside down (these little things make a difference, nice). Also this kite pack up quickly and I feel this is due to the 4 strut configuration.
Now lets talk about backstall… In my flights I noticed less tendenancy to back stall (than my Rises), but I would not say the problem has been eliminated. Another kite I recenttly tried out absolutly would not backstall, however I felt that kite did not provide the power it should for its size. I feel a kite needs to be able to be backstalled somehow. Otherwise I think your are missing out on a little bit of power. I didn’t test the unhooking ability of this kite enough, so I don’t want to go into any more disscussion on this aspect.
The kite has a little more bar pressure than the rise which I liked, but not so much that I felt the need to ever use the stopper ball. The feel of the kite lets you know exactly where it is in the window.
The bag is great and very easy to pack the kite into. It has a very nice seperate zipper for the bar to go into (I don’t know why this isn’t more common with other kites’ bags). My older Rises had a place to attach you pump to the bag, the Razor’s bag did not… no big deal though.
There is more I could tell you about the kite, but I’m going to wrap up my ramblings. The 2011 10m Razon is an excellent kite and I would trade in all my Rises for it for sure (but I just don’t have the $$$). I think the most appropraite category for this kite would be “Freeride”, but I’d bet this kite wold be great for racing. If you are a beginner go for the Rise, if you want to ride purely wakestyle go for the Diablo (I have yet to test this kite model). I think with the creation of the Razor, Ocean Rodeo will be selling more of these than the Rise as it seems to suit a larger group of riders.
If you want to know more about any aspects of the kite and my experience/feelings on them, ask away.
One last thing, the new (I think it came out last year, new to me) control bar is super confortable, and works very well. Best bar that i have used. A on that one OR.
very nice!
T U N A
Without a doubt this year’s 2011 line up of gear is the nicest collection of equipment we have ever had on offer.
2011 Rise kites - massive wind range, huge hang time
2011 Razor kites - insane boost, grunt and low end - incredible turning speed and direct pull
2011 Mako boards - smooth operator, deepest concave on the market - now with a wood core!
2011 JT Pro - 2/3 the thickness of the 2010 Zen the JT pro offers insane load and pop while handling the chop beautifully with its wood core flex. our best freestyle board yet and less expensive than last year’s Zen!
2011 5’11” Surf Series - Designed with input taken from over a year and a half of custom board builds for our Crew this board is a dream in the waves.
And that’s just the 2011 gear, we still offer the Predator Surf, the Pyro Pro (now in black and blue colour options), a ton of accessories and the Session Harness system!
John Z
Feels good to have this kite back after a couple of weeks of missing it.
I really like the Rises, but a quiver of razors gets more tempting all the time after reading something like this.
After spending a weekend with Craigs 10 Razor I got a few session on it. As claimed above the kite does have better low end than the Rise, and meter for meter delivers more power. However, I like to ride short lines. My go to bar has 19m 800# lines and this greatly reduced the low end (will for any kite). Later in a seesion I got to experience the hig end range and it seemed to be appropraite for the size. Also, I will add that the kites turning response did not decrease at the same rate as you depower the kite (meaning the kite still turns well when depowered).
This 10m Razor turns FAST, and nearly as fast as my 8m Rise.
When I missed the timming on redirecting the kite after boosting and the lines went slack, the Razon drifted back into the window very nicely. This is a great feature when riding in the waves.
The Razor does not have a center strut, and I like it. I bet this contributes to the kite turning faster. Also without a center strut the kite is a lot lees likely to drag on the ground while you are carrying it in hand upside down (these little things make a difference, nice). Also this kite pack up quickly and I feel this is due to the 4 strut configuration.
Now lets talk about backstall… In my flights I noticed less tendenancy to back stall (than my Rises), but I would not say the problem has been eliminated. Another kite I recenttly tried out absolutly would not backstall, however I felt that kite did not provide the power it should for its size. I feel a kite needs to be able to be backstalled somehow. Otherwise I think your are missing out on a little bit of power. I didn’t test the unhooking ability of this kite enough, so I don’t want to go into any more disscussion on this aspect.
The kite has a little more bar pressure than the rise which I liked, but not so much that I felt the need to ever use the stopper ball. The feel of the kite lets you know exactly where it is in the window.
The bag is great and very easy to pack the kite into. It has a very nice seperate zipper for the bar to go into (I don’t know why this isn’t more common with other kites’ bags). My older Rises had a place to attach you pump to the bag, the Razor’s bag did not… no big deal though.
There is more I could tell you about the kite, but I’m going to wrap up my ramblings. The 2011 10m Razon is an excellent kite and I would trade in all my Rises for it for sure (but I just don’t have the $$$). I think the most appropraite category for this kite would be “Freeride”, but I’d bet this kite wold be great for racing. If you are a beginner go for the Rise, if you want to ride purely wakestyle go for the Diablo (I have yet to test this kite model). I think with the creation of the Razor, Ocean Rodeo will be selling more of these than the Rise as it seems to suit a larger group of riders.
If you want to know more about any aspects of the kite and my experience/feelings on them, ask away.
One last thing, the new (I think it came out last year, new to me) control bar is super confortable, and works very well. Best bar that i have used. A on that one OR.
very nice!
T U N A
Without a doubt this year’s 2011 line up of gear is the nicest collection of equipment we have ever had on offer.
2011 Rise kites - massive wind range, huge hang time
2011 Razor kites - insane boost, grunt and low end - incredible turning speed and direct pull
2011 Mako boards - smooth operator, deepest concave on the market - now with a wood core!
2011 JT Pro - 2/3 the thickness of the 2010 Zen the JT pro offers insane load and pop while handling the chop beautifully with its wood core flex. our best freestyle board yet and less expensive than last year’s Zen!
2011 5’11” Surf Series - Designed with input taken from over a year and a half of custom board builds for our Crew this board is a dream in the waves.
And that’s just the 2011 gear, we still offer the Predator Surf, the Pyro Pro (now in black and blue colour options), a ton of accessories and the Session Harness system!
John Z
jaap sVraagstellerlid sinds 200924 aug 2010
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jaap svraagsteller24 aug 2010
jaap svraagsteller29 okt 2010
Review van Tuna
Feels good to have this kite back after a couple of weeks of missing it.
I really like the Rises, but a quiver of razors gets more tempting all the time after reading something like this.
After spending a weekend with Craigs 10 Razor I got a few session on it. As claimed above the kite does have better low end than the Rise, and meter for meter delivers more power. However, I like to ride short lines. My go to bar has 19m 800# lines and this greatly reduced the low end (will for any kite). Later in a seesion I got to experience the hig end range and it seemed to be appropraite for the size. Also, I will add that the kites turning response did not decrease at the same rate as you depower the kite (meaning the kite still turns well when depowered).
This 10m Razor turns FAST, and nearly as fast as my 8m Rise.
When I missed the timming on redirecting the kite after boosting and the lines went slack, the Razon drifted back into the window very nicely. This is a great feature when riding in the waves.
The Razor does not have a center strut, and I like it. I bet this contributes to the kite turning faster. Also without a center strut the kite is a lot lees likely to drag on the ground while you are carrying it in hand upside down (these little things make a difference, nice). Also this kite pack up quickly and I feel this is due to the 4 strut configuration.
Now lets talk about backstall… In my flights I noticed less tendenancy to back stall (than my Rises), but I would not say the problem has been eliminated. Another kite I recenttly tried out absolutly would not backstall, however I felt that kite did not provide the power it should for its size. I feel a kite needs to be able to be backstalled somehow. Otherwise I think your are missing out on a little bit of power. I didn’t test the unhooking ability of this kite enough, so I don’t want to go into any more disscussion on this aspect.
The kite has a little more bar pressure than the rise which I liked, but not so much that I felt the need to ever use the stopper ball. The feel of the kite lets you know exactly where it is in the window.
The bag is great and very easy to pack the kite into. It has a very nice seperate zipper for the bar to go into (I don’t know why this isn’t more common with other kites’ bags). My older Rises had a place to attach you pump to the bag, the Razor’s bag did not… no big deal though.
There is more I could tell you about the kite, but I’m going to wrap up my ramblings. The 2011 10m Razon is an excellent kite and I would trade in all my Rises for it for sure (but I just don’t have the $$$). I think the most appropraite category for this kite would be “Freeride”, but I’d bet this kite wold be great for racing. If you are a beginner go for the Rise, if you want to ride purely wakestyle go for the Diablo (I have yet to test this kite model). I think with the creation of the Razor, Ocean Rodeo will be selling more of these than the Rise as it seems to suit a larger group of riders.
If you want to know more about any aspects of the kite and my experience/feelings on them, ask away.
One last thing, the new (I think it came out last year, new to me) control bar is super confortable, and works very well. Best bar that i have used. A on that one OR.
very nice!
T U N A
Without a doubt this year’s 2011 line up of gear is the nicest collection of equipment we have ever had on offer.
2011 Rise kites - massive wind range, huge hang time
2011 Razor kites - insane boost, grunt and low end - incredible turning speed and direct pull
2011 Mako boards - smooth operator, deepest concave on the market - now with a wood core!
2011 JT Pro - 2/3 the thickness of the 2010 Zen the JT pro offers insane load and pop while handling the chop beautifully with its wood core flex. our best freestyle board yet and less expensive than last year’s Zen!
2011 5’11” Surf Series - Designed with input taken from over a year and a half of custom board builds for our Crew this board is a dream in the waves.
And that’s just the 2011 gear, we still offer the Predator Surf, the Pyro Pro (now in black and blue colour options), a ton of accessories and the Session Harness system!
John Z
Feels good to have this kite back after a couple of weeks of missing it.
I really like the Rises, but a quiver of razors gets more tempting all the time after reading something like this.
After spending a weekend with Craigs 10 Razor I got a few session on it. As claimed above the kite does have better low end than the Rise, and meter for meter delivers more power. However, I like to ride short lines. My go to bar has 19m 800# lines and this greatly reduced the low end (will for any kite). Later in a seesion I got to experience the hig end range and it seemed to be appropraite for the size. Also, I will add that the kites turning response did not decrease at the same rate as you depower the kite (meaning the kite still turns well when depowered).
This 10m Razor turns FAST, and nearly as fast as my 8m Rise.
When I missed the timming on redirecting the kite after boosting and the lines went slack, the Razon drifted back into the window very nicely. This is a great feature when riding in the waves.
The Razor does not have a center strut, and I like it. I bet this contributes to the kite turning faster. Also without a center strut the kite is a lot lees likely to drag on the ground while you are carrying it in hand upside down (these little things make a difference, nice). Also this kite pack up quickly and I feel this is due to the 4 strut configuration.
Now lets talk about backstall… In my flights I noticed less tendenancy to back stall (than my Rises), but I would not say the problem has been eliminated. Another kite I recenttly tried out absolutly would not backstall, however I felt that kite did not provide the power it should for its size. I feel a kite needs to be able to be backstalled somehow. Otherwise I think your are missing out on a little bit of power. I didn’t test the unhooking ability of this kite enough, so I don’t want to go into any more disscussion on this aspect.
The kite has a little more bar pressure than the rise which I liked, but not so much that I felt the need to ever use the stopper ball. The feel of the kite lets you know exactly where it is in the window.
The bag is great and very easy to pack the kite into. It has a very nice seperate zipper for the bar to go into (I don’t know why this isn’t more common with other kites’ bags). My older Rises had a place to attach you pump to the bag, the Razor’s bag did not… no big deal though.
There is more I could tell you about the kite, but I’m going to wrap up my ramblings. The 2011 10m Razon is an excellent kite and I would trade in all my Rises for it for sure (but I just don’t have the $$$). I think the most appropraite category for this kite would be “Freeride”, but I’d bet this kite wold be great for racing. If you are a beginner go for the Rise, if you want to ride purely wakestyle go for the Diablo (I have yet to test this kite model). I think with the creation of the Razor, Ocean Rodeo will be selling more of these than the Rise as it seems to suit a larger group of riders.
If you want to know more about any aspects of the kite and my experience/feelings on them, ask away.
One last thing, the new (I think it came out last year, new to me) control bar is super confortable, and works very well. Best bar that i have used. A on that one OR.
very nice!
T U N A
Without a doubt this year’s 2011 line up of gear is the nicest collection of equipment we have ever had on offer.
2011 Rise kites - massive wind range, huge hang time
2011 Razor kites - insane boost, grunt and low end - incredible turning speed and direct pull
2011 Mako boards - smooth operator, deepest concave on the market - now with a wood core!
2011 JT Pro - 2/3 the thickness of the 2010 Zen the JT pro offers insane load and pop while handling the chop beautifully with its wood core flex. our best freestyle board yet and less expensive than last year’s Zen!
2011 5’11” Surf Series - Designed with input taken from over a year and a half of custom board builds for our Crew this board is a dream in the waves.
And that’s just the 2011 gear, we still offer the Predator Surf, the Pyro Pro (now in black and blue colour options), a ton of accessories and the Session Harness system!
John Z